Henry and Elizabeth Frewin

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Posted by Jean Chung on 20 October , 2002 at 18:00:50:

In Reply to: Henry and Elizabeth Frewin posted by Lawrence Frewin on 20 October , 2002 at 09:35:35:

Hi Lawrence,

Wow, you have been busy!

Just one minor change to the information I gave you under William Henry's info. Hilda was actually Alice Hilda. It dawned on me last night that I'd given the middle name not the first.

Will check the data later in the week.

Have a good one!


: : Hi Lawence,

> Incredibly busy week. Here's some info for you. As
> soon as I receive the birth certificate, I'll confirm
> Elizabeth's maiden name.

Thanks Jean,

I mananged to get to the FRO earlier this week to run a sweep of the Newnham Murren/Goring area for Frewins on the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses

I have found quite a lot of new information about Frewins in the Newnham Murren, Crowmarsh Gifford and Goring areas and for Fruins in the Toot Baldon area.

I am fairly sure that all of the Frewin's in Newnham Murren are closely linked, and the same goes for the Fruins in Toot Baldon. There may well be a link between the Fruin and Frewin lines in these two towns, but how close it is I am not sure yet.

I also have some new entries for James Frewin (b. 1822), and his wife, Caroline Blackall, in our tree. These include an entry for Caroline Blackall when she was 15, and an entry for Hannah Frewin, James's mother (b. abt. 1781).

The father of James Frewin, Richard Frewin, has been a really difficult perons to find anything out about to date, I was hoping to find more information on him, but didn't have any luck.

I know very little about Richard. I'm unsure of how many children he had, I can't find a marriage record for him anywhere, and have often wondered whether both he and his wife Hannah were using nicknames. The mist is slowly rising on these two though. Hannah, at least, seems to have used the same name throughout her life.

I am still in the process of writing all of the new info up, it may take a couple of more days, it may be worth checking the database again at the end of the week.

The 1811 census of Newnham Murren still hasn't turned up from Berks Record Office though. This is beginning to look like quite a crucial document as it may one of the few sources that give us an idea of what Richard's family was like.

We currently have Richard & Hannah Frewin with 3 children;

Eliza, b 1811, d. 1828,
Sarah, b 1813, and
James (later married Caroline Blackall), b. 1822,

but I suspect there is at least a fourth child, Richard Frewin, and perhaps more.

A Richard Frewin (who later married Maria Lewis), was born in Newnham Murren in 1809, parents as yet unknown.

This is around the same time that our Richard Frewin Snr had Eliza (b. 1811) and Sarah (b. 1813) in Crowmarsh, and later, James (b. 1822), in Newnham Murren.

Richard Snr seems to have disappeared for quite some time in the period 1813 - 1822, between the births of Sarah in 1813 and James in 1822.

We know Richard was a soldier from the baptism record for Sarah in 1813, so he was possibly abroad for a while.

He doesn't appear with his wife Hannah in the 1841 census, nor the 1851 census, and I suspect that he may have been away on a military campaign again.

In the 1851 census, Richard's wife, Hannah, said she WAS married despite Richard not having appeared on any records I have seen since 1822.

A very difficult nut to crack. It may need another search at Kew of military records perhaps, once we have established firm dates for these periods of absence.

More generally though, looking at the database records we have so far, you sometimes get the impression that the Newnham Murren and Goring areas were teeming with Frewin's around this period, but that's really not the case.

At any one time there only seem to have been two or three families in Newnham, and the odd family or individual turning up in Goring. They seemed to have stayed in Newnham some considerable time too, from around 1800 to about 1880 in some instances

In a sense that is quite good news I think, it should be much easier to trace the various individuals concerned once we have an idea of who was around at what time.

I have also arranged to go and see the Vicar of Crowmarsh in early December, who in turn is hoping to introduce me to an elderly Frewin family from the Newnham/Crowmarsh area.

That's it for the moment. Will let you know if anything turns up on the 1811 census later in the the week hopefully.

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