When Harry met Henry

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Posted by Lawrence Frewin on 08 July , 2003 at 16:06:25:

In Reply to: Richard Frewin, grandfather of Henry/Harry posted by Jean Chung on 03 December , 2002 at 06:41:03:

A very late postscript to this thread Jean, but I just remembered that Harry as a nickname for Henry is actually not that uncommon!

From Henry V by William Shakespeare:



I pray thee, bear my former answer back:
Bid them achieve me and then sell my bones. 95
Good God! why should they mock poor fellows thus?
The man that once did sell the lion's skin
While the beast lived, was killed with hunting him.
A many of our bodies shall no doubt
Find native graves; upon the which, I trust, 100
Shall witness live in brass of this day's work:
And those that leave their valiant bones in France,
Dying like men, though buried in your dunghills,
They shall be famed; for there the sun shall greet them,
And draw their honours reeking up to heaven; 105
Leaving their earthly parts to choke your clime,
The smell whereof shall breed a plague in France.
Mark then abounding valour in our English,
That being dead, like to the bullet's grazing,
Break out into a second course of mischief, 110
Killing in relapse of mortality.
Let me speak proudly: tell the constable
We are but warriors for the working-day;
Our gayness and our gilt are all besmirch'd
With rainy marching in the painful field; 115
There's not a piece of feather in our host--
Good argument, I hope, we will not fly--
And time hath worn us into slovenry:
But, by the mass, our hearts are in the trim;
And my poor soldiers tell me, yet ere night 120
They'll be in fresher robes, or they will pluck
The gay new coats o'er the French soldiers' heads
And turn them out of service. If they do this,--
As, if God please, they shall,--my ransom then
Will soon be levied. Herald, save thou thy labour; 125
Come thou no more for ransom, gentle herald:
They shall have none, I swear, but these my joints;
Which if they have as I will leave 'em them,
Shall yield them little, tell the constable.


I shall, King Harry. And so fare thee well: 130
Thou never shalt hear herald any more.


I fear thou'lt once more come again for ransom.


I can't imagine why I didn't think of that connection before!


: Hi Lawrence,

Interesting coincidence with the names I must say. I guess it's possible. I'll have a closer look at the dates. I wonder if you could advise me on something. I'm trying to locate where my grandfather, William Henry Frewin was buried. He died in Fulham. Do you know of a cemetery over that way that I could contact? Thanks.


: Hi Jean,

I came across this record on the Civil Regitration Index earlier.

Frewin, Harry Stevens
Year: 1881 Quarter: December
Record Type: Births Volume: 1b
District: Pancras Page: 85

It looks like Henry/Harry Frewin and Elizabeth Stevens may have had another child who died young perhaps - he doesn't appear in the 1891 census with this family.


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